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| Birdy68 | | Thor |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 16/07/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,352 | | Location | : | Bad Zurzach, Aargau, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 15 Oct 2009 - 07:21 Post title : REMUS Exhaust System | | | REMUS have an exhaust system available for our new Thunderbird!
Price: $ 1'199.00 (Ouch!)
So - in a nut shell - For a GRAND total of $ 1'199.00 you get:
+ 1 ps
+ 5.1 Nm
1 ps = $1200...... Errrm - no thank you!
Anyway - more info's when more are known!
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Leave the pork pies for now - get the sausage rolls while they're hot!
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more info at Fuelly.com
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| DVR | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 651 | | Location | : | I'm Denis, from Belgium |
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| | Posted : 16 Oct 2009 - 01:09 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: Birdy68) | | | crazy money and don't even like them !
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| daz | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Oct 2009 - 03:23 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: Birdy68) | | | That dyno is so typical of how detuned the triumph classics and cruisers lines are. they all lose breath and die a few thousand RPM's before redline.. They need unrestricted pipes and airway mods. It's the airway mods that do it along with enrichening the mix to match, and the pipes are just needed to allow the larger exhaust flow. My speedmaster was pathetic at higher rpm's. Just a joke. Opened up the air box in a big way with thunderbike pipes and rejetted it, added some ignition mods that helped a bit too. at that point it pulled so hard in freeway roll-ons my Tbird isn't much better ! It probably got 50% better if not more. yet the bottom end stayed almost the same. Better, but no where near as much because like the Tbird it's already good there.
So i'm positive these bikes will wake up in a big way once we figure out the best ways to do it. unfortunately that may take a couple years. i will likely do the BB but i'm not sure if that will liven up the higher RPM's or just boost everything up a bit retaining the same performance curve. Seems it wouls still run out of breath unless the intake of air is improved.
By the way, what i dislike about these pipes and the rassk is that they are straight....they don't taper. And that doesn't look right to my eye unless the pipes are not up swept like a speedmaster. Being the same diameter at the beginning and end of the muffler looks like a sportbike.
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| FTL40 | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 13/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,122 | | Location | : | massachusetts, United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Oct 2009 - 14:46 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: daz) | | | the big bire also adds new cams which do open up the higher rpm's. if i can find the dyno graph i will. also this is a huge heavy crank so it will never rev to 8k or over.
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Oct 2009 - 16:51 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: FTL40) | | |
FTL40 wrote:
the big bire also adds new cams which do open up the higher rpm's. if i can find the dyno graph i will. also this is a huge heavy crank so it will never rev to 8k or over. |
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True, tho i'm not looking to rev it past redline at all. But the dyno reflects exactly what you feel when you wind it out....past about 5k it just does nothing. It loses power. Like i said thats exactly how my speedmaster was till i modded it. The cams will help to be sure, but i gotta think with the intake being restricted that it will require airbox mods to really reverse the dyno curve from 5k and above. i have a feeling the BB kit will bring it up a lot but equally everywhere so that that same dyno curve will remain. then opening the airway should really make a huge difference. Cams or not the engine cannot use a richer mixture if it cannot get enough air in it fast enough to allow more fuel. Thats the way i'm seeing it but maybe i'm wrong. In any case it should be that the BB kit AND more airflow should make it a monster. I'm just wondering how people will open it up. The bottom of the box is prime for doubling the intake area like with the 900's, but it won't be as easy and something may have to be fabricated. The of course there will be the elimination kits down the road, tho with those i fear a HP gain at the cost of low torque.
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| FTL40 | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 13/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 1,122 | | Location | : | massachusetts, United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Oct 2009 - 17:31 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: daz) | | | opening up the intake will of course help, but you also need to understand with cams they alone can chaneg the entire powerband of a motor. i will keep trying to find the dyno i saw of before and after big bore.
| 2010 tbird 1700 silver (fastest color) BC exhaust, BC airbox removal
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Oct 2009 - 17:43 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: FTL40) | | | Well, in any case i would love to see that dyno. If the kit makes the 5k+area useful i would be quite happy to leave it at that.
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| Thatch | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Oct 2009 - 18:07 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: daz) | | | The dyno graph in question can be found here...
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The HP holds pretty steady through red line (dipping down 5 - 6 hp or so) compared to stock which has about a 15 hp fall off. This graph looks really good for the BB kit... more grunt a lot quicker and a shallow fade at red line should mean for a substantial change in performance character to the bike post install. I can't wait
| | Post edited by Thatch on 16 Oct 2009 - 18:19 |
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Oct 2009 - 18:49 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: Thatch) | | | It still drops off at about the same place. maybe 500 RPM's higher. it's not whether it drops of less, it's all about the fact it's not making more power as the rpms increase. normally with a bike that has good high end power it's a snowball effect, and thats where the acceleration comes from. theres nothing to snowball when it's not gaining power as the revs rise. This is why i say it needs to breath. Breathing mods alone with all else stock turned my speedmaster from weak to very strong at higher RPM's. Nite and day. My Tbird isn't much stronger at freeway roll on's. I think it's desperate for breathing mods and i think even w/o the kit you'd get a big performance boost. This bike has it all on the bottom and ziltch at the top. A steady rise in HP to redline even slight will make it a whole different bike that will give the same kind of rush as the R3 does when you wind it up. Thats my belief anyways.
EDIT: I just noticed the chart says "aftermarket pipes fitted". I always thought the BB kit was 15 HP by itself ! I never saw anything from triumph stating you must have aftermarket pipes fitted to get the same specs till now. Jeez....can't win. But then again, how can that be when they say the kit is EPA compliant? The pipes aren't ! This is just nuts. Time to call the fountains of misinformation at triumph USA again.......geez......
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| Bedouin | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 18/10/2008 | | Posts | : | 1,066 | | Location | : | Athens, Greece |
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| | Posted : 16 Oct 2009 - 18:55 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: daz) | | | daz wrote:
.... Breathing mods alone with all else stock turned my speedmaster from weak to very strong at higher RPM's. Nite and day. My Tbird isn't much stronger at freeway roll on's. I think it's desperate for breathing mods and i think even w/o the kit you'd get a big performance boost. |
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Yeah! I remember your tinkering with that. I'll be watching you to see what you do, Sir! 
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Oct 2009 - 19:04 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: Bedouin) | | | well, i just called them and sure enough the BB kit is 15 HP with aftermarket pipes fitted. With stock pipes you won't be getting 15 HP. They don't know how much, put i think this is deceptive advertising because he said you need tors to get the 15 hp with the kit but tors are not EPA compliant. So i then asked does this mean the kit by itself is going to be less than 15 HP when used in a EPA compliant fashion, IE: with stock pipes? he said correct. So all the while triumph has been saying the kit is EPA compliant and adds 15 HP, and that is a lie. It does not add 15 when it is EPA compliant, IE: stock pipes. Gotta say, thats both disappointing and irritating. And with this kind of deception they may actually mean with the most nonrestrictive pipes you'll be able to get, so tors may not even get you 15. I wouldn't put it past them after this.
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| Thatch | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 24/06/2009 | | Posts | : | 3,655 | | Location | : | Savannah, GA, United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Oct 2009 - 19:30 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: daz) | | | True there is still fall off but the amount is much less. This will affect performance a great deall. That does not exclude the impact that intake mods will make but it does seem to indicate that those mods will have an even more impressive impact as there is such an improvement without addressing the breathing issue,
As for the tor 'requirement' that has been in the footnote of every triumph pree release I've read about the bb kit.
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 16 Oct 2009 - 21:52 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: Thatch) | | | Thats odd because i never once saw that. I saw them mention the pipes in conjunction with the BB kit in some context, but i never saw them say it's required to get 15 HP.
| 2010 Blue/White Thunderbird, "Brutus". 1700 kit, short tors, gutted cat, UNI filter, filter seal off, custom tune. Brutus in his native habitat: Link
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| mjelic | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 29/04/2010 | | Posts | : | 1 | | Location | : | Sydney, NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 01 May 2010 - 23:22 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: daz) | | |
daz wrote:
what i dislike about these pipes and the rassk is that they are straight....they don't taper. And that doesn't look right to my eye unless the pipes are not up swept like a speedmaster. Being the same diameter at the beginning and end of the muffler looks like a sportbike. |
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Agreed. Shame Raask didn't make the pipes look the have for the Bonneville. Link I like the look of the Minizooms.
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| hans | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 02/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 21 | | Location | : | wissembourg, France |
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| | Posted : 11 Jul 2011 - 18:13 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: mjelic) | | | I installed today my new remus....
great sound....
looking good, between short and long tor's
EUR 630,-
USD 896.49,-
order bei a german company
Hans
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| MegaWatt | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 19/11/2013 | | Posts | : | 12 | | Location | : | Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 04 Mar 2014 - 12:17 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: hans) | | | I installed the Remus a couple of months ago. And even though it's winter I couldn't wait and went a few times for a ride. Performancewise I can't feel a difference (of course I didn't push the bike to the limit as it is winter). The sound with the dB killers in is similar to the original ones. But without it really sounds like a THUNDERbird.  Most likely I need to put them back in as in Europe you easily can get in trouble like that.
Re look: I like them much more than the original ones (I don't like them tapered and they are too long). True, the price is high but better I spend the money for my bike than my wife for I don't know what 
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| TBIRDSLO | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 27/12/2016 | | Posts | : | 21 | | Location | : | Slovenia |
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| | Posted : 16 Jul 2017 - 06:38 Post title : Re: REMUS Exhaust System (Re: MegaWatt) | | | haY
Haw you loaded a new software on ECU ? or is still original ?
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